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[Jazz]

In a sense KoMaR has a point, but you are right, it is unfair to make the assumptions and to point fingers just as anyone else would be everyone is stressed out by the server's circumstances, well, everyone that cares and no KoMaR isn't saving anyone's butts, no-one is saving anyone's butts in all honesty, which is the issue.

I could go on for hours about what needs changing and a rough path of how to do so, but there are issues:

• 1. No one would ACTUALLY take heed to what I say.
  2. I cannot guarantee that these ideologies would work.
  3. I don't think a lot of people care.

There are flaws in every system, one example would be with the way factions are being scripted and descripted, granted this ALMOST had it's uproar and absolute perfect opportunity to flourish, but we had the same issue. Factions are judged on how suited they are to their current roles and leadership stance rather than their RP standing and OOC reputation.

The MC has gone through 5 name changes since I have been in the server and has never changed and in my personal opinion, there is no need for a gang to be scripted unless they require specialist commands and have direly deserved the right to do so, for example:

• The Outfit provides good RP but it is so inclusive that there is barely any external roleplay, so it is a waste of a faction slot.
• The DDMC (Changed again) has never been successful for longer than a week and it is time that we swapped it for something else, a gang that hasn't been done in a long time.

That's just factions there are also other things which are done very weirdly and cockhandedly that don't benefit anyone and cause headache, YES, the admin score system is a GREAT way to tell who is doing a great job and competition sparks the want to out-do colleagues but it is also a very saddening way to do things.

Players need to help players, Admins need to help Admins and players, after all, we're a community not a dysfunctional heirachy system that share a mutual interest.

Point or not, the problem here is him saying something without knowing the truth, about myself and my activity. There are issues and we're working on them, don't expect everything to improve within the next 24 hours though. Oh, and, there is no flawless system, there is no flawless human. The most important thing is to keep working and improving and trying the best to come close to the perfection.

 

[Karner]

In a sense KoMaR has a point, but you are right, it is unfair to make the assumptions and to point fingers just as anyone else would be everyone is stressed out by the server's circumstances, well, everyone that cares and no KoMaR isn't saving anyone's butts, no-one is saving anyone's butts in all honesty, which is the issue.

I could go on for hours about what needs changing and a rough path of how to do so, but there are issues:

• 1. No one would ACTUALLY take heed to what I say.
  2. I cannot guarantee that these ideologies would work.
  3. I don't think a lot of people care.

There are flaws in every system, one example would be with the way factions are being scripted and descripted, granted this ALMOST had it's uproar and absolute perfect opportunity to flourish, but we had the same issue. Factions are judged on how suited they are to their current roles and leadership stance rather than their RP standing and OOC reputation.

The MC has gone through 5 name changes since I have been in the server and has never changed and in my personal opinion, there is no need for a gang to be scripted unless they require specialist commands and have direly deserved the right to do so, for example:

• The Outfit provides good RP but it is so inclusive that there is barely any external roleplay, so it is a waste of a faction slot.
• The DDMC (Changed again) has never been successful for longer than a week and it is time that we swapped it for something else, a gang that hasn't been done in a long time.

That's just factions there are also other things which are done very weirdly and cockhandedly that don't benefit anyone and cause headache, YES, the admin score system is a GREAT way to tell who is doing a great job and competition sparks the want to out-do colleagues but it is also a very saddening way to do things.

Players need to help players, Admins need to help Admins and players, after all, we're a community not a dysfunctional heirachy system that share a mutual interest.

Point or not, the problem here is him saying something without knowing the truth, about myself and my activity. There are issues and we're working on them, don't expect everything to improve within the next 24 hours though. Oh, and, there is no flawless system, there is no flawless human. The most important thing is to keep working and improving and trying the best to come close to the perfection.

Precisely, but there is no willingness to take RISKS for systems that are not flawless, that is one of the issues here, and yes, these changes will take time and there are ways of doing things, I personally cannot vouch for your activity or inactivity because like you said, we cannot know the truth, from the public PoV that would be the general consensus.

However, yes, there are changes that can be made, some of them short term, some of them long term. It's about risk taking, we, as a community are now FORCED to take risky moves that were certainty a few months ago but didn't, this is because of a little laziness and too much worry and concern and maybe people depended on the wrong people, who can say for certain?

All we know and can say for certain, that something can, is, needs to and WILL be done.

 

[Scuba]

Admins need to be stricter, players need to be more serious blah---....

Let me just say that even though the admins are NOT and let me repeat are NOT EVEN CLOSE to causing the issue, some did and I will explain how.
First off the ooc fuckery, okay I understand we all go ooc sometimes, and even though I hate this stupid phrase, I think its only useful as an excuse but, yes this is a GAME and we should be treating it like 100% IRL however last time I checked along with everyone else I joined a Role Play server that is supposed to be HEAVY and STRICT. I could hack everyone and blame it on my turtle and get unbanned, no. That shouldn't be happening, part of the problem is you kick the problem makers out... And then let them right back in? What the actual fuck? That's part of the problem, and it's the admins problem because regular players can't handle those requests. I know the admins ALWAYS get bashed in almost every "RCRP sucks what could be the problem whywhywhy" topic, but that is something I always saw and wanted to point out. I haven't been and admin here, haven't ever, and still don't really plan on being one here, but fun fact, I have been an admin on another RP community way way way back before I ever found this server, and let me tell you I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO HAVE EVERYONE ON YOUR ASSHOLE ABOUT EVERYTHING.

Also, the forums... Full of trolls, and just stuff that makes me wonder why people make these topics about why everything's going downhill even more...

We need to clamp down on the shitting around, and sorry to throw you guys into the fire, but the admins are the only ones who have the power to do any of this.

Edit: There is a lot more to this that I could write for hours about, this was just what I had to say about the admins, which I believe, is the most important part of any server.

 

[Seapony]

The only reason things are going 'downhill' is because of the lack of roleplay you can have. The server is very, very fun to play at the start, getting from levels 1-10 is the greatest experience you have. Now everything is all faction RP, or cops and criminals. There isn't really anything BAD about that, it's just that if you aren't in an active faction/you aren't in a gang or PD, there isn't much to do..., no one really talks on the street, starts anything. Usually it's just sitting on a bench in Montgomery, drive around and get into accidents that are just plain boring after some time. People are going on and on about weapons being distributed too much, well this is GTA here, the goal is to get weapons! Maybe if people controlled themselves with weapons, it would be better, although having many weapons is NOT a bad thing at all, people just assume that.... Drugs is a different story, it ain't fun cause you can just (for donators it's easier) /quitjob, get drug dealer job, buy a shit ton of cocaine, store it in your house/trunk or something, and then /quitjob and go back to mechanic so you can respray your car or add hydraulics or nitro.

Of course, these topics will spawn every other week, nothing will be done about it, I'm sure everyone got the cycle already.

 

[redz]

Well said Jazzy and i was awaiting so long since someplayer are rping like bunch of 10 year olds well let us see how it works out for all of us and the server. Oh yea as well what is contributing to lots of the quiz are they are going on broswer and some hater on RCRP has the answers and to be honest i think that the quiz should be changed to prevent the non rpers from joining and downgrading our style of rp as well yes seapony i agree with that one hardly any talk and meet persons as i tried before i try to tak to someone the walk off they don't try to make the rp fun as well even in or out of a faction there is still rp you can do such as cleaning windows,car washing and what ever is fun to do it and make rcrp a fun rp but stricy roleplay server

 

[Jeffy™]

I am pretty sure there was a warning system that could be very useful, but I only remember Kenshi using it once and that's all. You don't need to really force a kick or admin jail to a player, especially a new one, but instead warn him and if he continues, obviously force the punishment then. A lot of people rush in their decisions, which causes lots of misunderstandings.

 

[Sparky]

well this is GTA here, the goal is to get weapons!

I'll have to disagree on that one. It's GTA, yes, but we're not playing Single Player, where you can just grab yourself a jetpack, hack for weapons and go on a cop killing spree, spraying down helicopters and tanks. What I'm trying to say is, that no matter what game is this, you're still supposed to Role Play and do what you would do in real life. Place yourself into the position of the character and pretend you're being him. If not, then atleast think of what would happen if you were in that situation. Think of the physics and what would happen if this, this and this appeared, happened or will happen.

 

[iRyan]

In a sense KoMaR has a point, but you are right, it is unfair to make the assumptions and to point fingers just as anyone else would be everyone is stressed out by the server's circumstances, well, everyone that cares and no KoMaR isn't saving anyone's butts, no-one is saving anyone's butts in all honesty, which is the issue.

I could go on for hours about what needs changing and a rough path of how to do so, but there are issues:

• 1. No one would ACTUALLY take heed to what I say.
  2. I cannot guarantee that these ideologies would work.
  3. I don't think a lot of people care.

There are flaws in every system, one example would be with the way factions are being scripted and descripted, granted this ALMOST had it's uproar and absolute perfect opportunity to flourish, but we had the same issue. Factions are judged on how suited they are to their current roles and leadership stance rather than their RP standing and OOC reputation.

The MC has gone through 5 name changes since I have been in the server and has never changed and in my personal opinion, there is no need for a gang to be scripted unless they require specialist commands and have direly deserved the right to do so, for example:

• The Outfit provides good RP but it is so inclusive that there is barely any external roleplay, so it is a waste of a faction slot.
• The DDMC (Changed again) has never been successful for longer than a week and it is time that we swapped it for something else, a gang that hasn't been done in a long time.

That's just factions there are also other things which are done very weirdly and cockhandedly that don't benefit anyone and cause headache, YES, the admin score system is a GREAT way to tell who is doing a great job and competition sparks the want to out-do colleagues but it is also a very saddening way to do things.

Players need to help players, Admins need to help Admins and players, after all, we're a community not a dysfunctional heirachy system that share a mutual interest.

Point or not, the problem here is him saying something without knowing the truth, about myself and my activity. There are issues and we're working on them, don't expect everything to improve within the next 24 hours though. Oh, and, there is no flawless system, there is no flawless human. The most important thing is to keep working and improving and trying the best to come close to the perfection.

Precisely, but there is no willingness to take RISKS for systems that are not flawless, that is one of the issues here, and yes, these changes will take time and there are ways of doing things, I personally cannot vouch for your activity or inactivity because like you said, we cannot know the truth, from the public PoV that would be the general consensus.

However, yes, there are changes that can be made, some of them short term, some of them long term. It's about risk taking, we, as a community are now FORCED to take risky moves that were certainty a few months ago but didn't, this is because of a little laziness and too much worry and concern and maybe people depended on the wrong people, who can say for certain?

All we know and can say for certain, that something can, is, needs to and WILL be done.

Aperture is nothing but a headache, DoC is nothing but a headache. w0t waist of faction slot delete delete delete. Just because a faction doesn't roleplay out in the public it doesn't mean it should be descripted, Mafia's are supposed to be kept underwraps, nothing illegal shown to the outside or even so need to roleplay with randomers on the street it's just the way it is in real life. Dealwithit. Nonrp aper member wot

 

[Karner]

In a sense KoMaR has a point, but you are right, it is unfair to make the assumptions and to point fingers just as anyone else would be everyone is stressed out by the server's circumstances, well, everyone that cares and no KoMaR isn't saving anyone's butts, no-one is saving anyone's butts in all honesty, which is the issue.

I could go on for hours about what needs changing and a rough path of how to do so, but there are issues:

• 1. No one would ACTUALLY take heed to what I say.
  2. I cannot guarantee that these ideologies would work.
  3. I don't think a lot of people care.

There are flaws in every system, one example would be with the way factions are being scripted and descripted, granted this ALMOST had it's uproar and absolute perfect opportunity to flourish, but we had the same issue. Factions are judged on how suited they are to their current roles and leadership stance rather than their RP standing and OOC reputation.

The MC has gone through 5 name changes since I have been in the server and has never changed and in my personal opinion, there is no need for a gang to be scripted unless they require specialist commands and have direly deserved the right to do so, for example:

• The Outfit provides good RP but it is so inclusive that there is barely any external roleplay, so it is a waste of a faction slot.
• The DDMC (Changed again) has never been successful for longer than a week and it is time that we swapped it for something else, a gang that hasn't been done in a long time.

That's just factions there are also other things which are done very weirdly and cockhandedly that don't benefit anyone and cause headache, YES, the admin score system is a GREAT way to tell who is doing a great job and competition sparks the want to out-do colleagues but it is also a very saddening way to do things.

Players need to help players, Admins need to help Admins and players, after all, we're a community not a dysfunctional heirachy system that share a mutual interest.

Point or not, the problem here is him saying something without knowing the truth, about myself and my activity. There are issues and we're working on them, don't expect everything to improve within the next 24 hours though. Oh, and, there is no flawless system, there is no flawless human. The most important thing is to keep working and improving and trying the best to come close to the perfection.

Precisely, but there is no willingness to take RISKS for systems that are not flawless, that is one of the issues here, and yes, these changes will take time and there are ways of doing things, I personally cannot vouch for your activity or inactivity because like you said, we cannot know the truth, from the public PoV that would be the general consensus.

However, yes, there are changes that can be made, some of them short term, some of them long term. It's about risk taking, we, as a community are now FORCED to take risky moves that were certainty a few months ago but didn't, this is because of a little laziness and too much worry and concern and maybe people depended on the wrong people, who can say for certain?

All we know and can say for certain, that something can, is, needs to and WILL be done.

Aperture is nothing but a headache, DoC is nothing but a headache. w0t waist of faction slot delete delete delete. Just because a faction doesn't roleplay out in the public it doesn't mean it should be descripted, Mafia's are supposed to be kept underwraps, nothing illegal shown to the outside or even so need to roleplay with randomers on the street it's just the way it is in real life. Dealwithit. Nonrp aper member wot

I already took what I said about the Outfit back. But I see your point ^^

 

[Jeffy™]

Nonrp aper member wot

I really hope this isn't a discussion you're starting about that, because then I should go to "What grinds your gear the most" topic and express my opinion there.