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Robbing / Scamming Rules [Last Updated: 17th of March 2021]

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Earl

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Due to the fact that knives have been available in weapon crates for a while, they have also now been removed from the list of weapons that cannot be stolen (which means that you can steal them now).
 

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The rule about killing before/during/after a robbery/scam has been expanded upon and clarified, as it was hard to understand and partially contradicted itself. Hopefully now everything will be perfectly clear and understandable.

Old rule:
Killing
Killing after/before a robbery/scam (or attempted robbery/scam) is disallowed, unless the victim accepts the kill via /do.

You are not allowed to kill or heavily injure a person after a robbery if your only reason for that is that is so that they don't call the cops (order of actions doesn't matter).You are also not allowed to rob a person who you killed or heavily injured. This includes vehicle rams.

Those who are found to be breaching this rule will be warned and admin jailed, and the PK will be invalid. Repeated offense will result in a date ban.

New rule:
Killing
Killing or inflicting heavy injuries before, during or after a robbery/scam (or attempted robbery/scam) is disallowed, unless the victim brings it upon themselves.

If the person you're robbing/scamming (or have just robbed/scammed) is roughly cooperating - you are not allowed to kill or heavily injure them (for example just to stop them from snitching on you later).

If the person you're robbing/scamming (or have just robbed/scammed) is not cooperating and poses a direct threat - you are allowed to kill or heavily injure them.

Please note that the victim has to bring the heavy injuries/death upon themselves in order for it to be allowed - examples of such actions could be whipping out a firearm, trying to fight you (or your colleagues), trying to get the attention of a nearby police officer, trying to flee with your vehicle, or any other acts that might put you in danger. Minor lack of cooperation (shouting insults, passively resisting, etc) does not warrant inflicting heavy injuries/death.

Heavy injuries are to be interpreted as injuries that could potentially cause death if left untreated. Inflicting minor injuries (eg. beating someone up a bit) is allowed.

Those who are found to be breaching this rule will be warned or admin jailed, and the PK will be invalid. Repeated offense will result in a date ban.
 

wool

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Official guidelines regarding the looting of corpses has been added.

Weapons
Weapons do not have a value and instead we enforce what type of weapons can be robbed and scammed.

You may ONLY rob or scam the following:
  • 9mm Pistol, Desert Eagle, Shotgun, MP5, M4 Assault Rifle, Tec-9, Uzi, AK-47, Country Rifle, Silenced 9mm, Sawn-off Shotgun, Knife, Shovel, Baseball Bat, Golf Club, Flowers, Spray Can, Nightstick, Dildo, Vibrator.

You are not allowed to rob or scam the following:
  • Fire Extinguisher, Chainsaw, Katana.
You are also not allowed to steal legal weapons (purchased from an Ammunation by a player with a valid weapon license).

Some people might own certain weapons that were given to them by admins for roleplay purposes, and they personally were trusted with such weapons. Therefore you may not rob them.
Disclaimer: All other weapons not listed here are also not allowed to be robbed. Due to script and faction restrictions (down below), they are not individually mentioned here.

Weapons
Weapons do not have a value and instead we enforce what type of weapons can be robbed and scammed.

You may ONLY rob or scam the following:
  • 9mm Pistol, Desert Eagle, Shotgun, MP5, M4 Assault Rifle, Tec-9, Uzi, AK-47, Country Rifle, Silenced 9mm, Sawn-off Shotgun, Knife, Shovel, Baseball Bat, Golf Club, Flowers, Spray Can, Nightstick, Dildo, Vibrator.

You are not allowed to rob or scam the following:
  • Fire Extinguisher, Chainsaw, Katana.
You are also not allowed to steal legal weapons (purchased from an Ammunation by a player with a valid weapon license).

Some people might own certain weapons that were given to them by admins for roleplay purposes, and they personally were trusted with such weapons. Therefore you may not rob them.

It is against the rules to loot corpses of other players in an attempt to aquire guns or other weapons.
However, it is allowed to loot corpses of other players in case there is a valid in-character reason for that. Valid in-character reasons are limited to;
  • Taking the weapon that your downed ally(ies) possess, if that's your only way of self-defense against an attacker(s).
  • Taking the weapon(s) of the player(s) you've killed, however, only to dispose of them and their possible value as evidence. You may not use the said weapon.
Admins may make exceptions to this rule if they deem it justified.
Disclaimer: All other weapons not listed here are also not allowed to be robbed. Due to script and faction restrictions (down below), they are not individually mentioned here.
Refund requests for looted guns will not be accepted. If the player has been executed (accepted death), or downed you will not be able to get their weapon without a valid reason.
 

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A clarification about robbing/stealing phones has been added.

General Scam and Robbery rules

  • The player you're robbing and/or scamming must be level THREE or higher.
  • You yourself need to be level THREE or higher in order to scam and/or rob.
  • You may not assist when robbing and/or scamming a player until you are level THREE in the interests of fairness.
    Exception to this: In the interest of fairness, committing illegal acts such as dealing drugs or using illegal weapons as a level 1 or 2 removes the under-level-3 protection. This means that other players will be allowed to rob or scam you in such a situation, despite of your level not being high enough.
  • In the interests of realism, you may not commit more than THREE robberies or scams within a 24-hour period.
  • You may not intentionally harm/inflict bodily pain upon others before commiting a robbery unless the player brought it upon themselves. This includes vehicle ramming.
  • You may not rob someone by pretending to buy/sell assets like vehicles, houses or businesses and luring them into a trap.
    However, this is allowed when buying/selling illegal items like weapons and drugs.
  • You may not use the auctions to scam/rob someone of their money or assets.
  • You may not rob/steal fishing crates.
  • You are allowed rob/steal phones regardless of their number (custom or not). However, the owner of the phone will be free to roleplay restricting their SIM card and request an administrator to set the old number back to their new phone (after setting the number of the stolen phone to something random).

In the interest of fairness it is not allowed to commit a robbery while there's no police officers members online (can be checked via /factiononline). This applies only for simple robbery scenarios (approaching an unsuspecting player, robbing them and leaving afterwards), it is still allowed to commit a robbery and other criminal acts if they're a result of a roleplay scenario already in progress.
 

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Small update to the general scam/robbery rules.
Players now require three or more cops online to commit a robbery & SBI are not counted as a part of that rule due to the fact they do not investigate street level crimes.
General Scam and Robbery rules

  • The player you're robbing and/or scamming must be level THREE or higher.
  • You yourself need to be level THREE or higher in order to scam and/or rob.
  • You may not assist when robbing and/or scamming a player until you are level THREE in the interests of fairness.
    Exception to this: In the interest of fairness, committing illegal acts such as dealing drugs or using illegal weapons as a level 1 or 2 removes the under-level-3 protection. This means that other players will be allowed to rob or scam you in such a situation, despite of your level not being high enough.
  • In the interests of realism, you may not commit more than THREE robberies or scams within a 24-hour period.
  • You may not intentionally harm/inflict bodily pain upon others before commiting a robbery unless the player brought it upon themselves. This includes vehicle ramming.
  • You may not rob someone by pretending to buy/sell assets like vehicles, houses or businesses and luring them into a trap.
    However, this is allowed when buying/selling illegal items like weapons and drugs.
  • You may not use the auctions to scam/rob someone of their money or assets.
  • You may not rob/steal fishing crates.
  • You are allowed rob/steal phones regardless of their number (custom or not). However, the owner of the phone will be free to roleplay restricting their SIM card and request an administrator to set the old number back to their new phone (after setting the number of the stolen phone to something random).

In the interest of fairness it is not allowed to commit a robbery while there's no police officers members online (can be checked via /factiononline). This applies only for simple robbery scenarios (approaching an unsuspecting player, robbing them and leaving afterwards), it is still allowed to commit a robbery and other criminal acts if they're a result of a roleplay scenario already in progress.


General Scam and Robbery rules

  • The player you're robbing and/or scamming must be level THREE or higher.
  • You yourself need to be level THREE or higher in order to scam and/or rob.
  • You may not assist when robbing and/or scamming a player until you are level THREE in the interests of fairness.
    Exception to this: In the interest of fairness, committing illegal acts such as dealing drugs or using illegal weapons as a level 1 or 2 removes the under-level-3 protection. This means that other players will be allowed to rob or scam you in such a situation, despite of your level not being high enough.
  • In the interests of realism, you may not commit more than THREE robberies or scams within a 24-hour period.
  • You may not intentionally harm/inflict bodily pain upon others before commiting a robbery unless the player brought it upon themselves. This includes vehicle ramming.
  • You may not rob someone by pretending to buy/sell assets like vehicles, houses or businesses and luring them into a trap.
    However, this is allowed when buying/selling illegal items like weapons and drugs.
  • You may not use the auctions to scam/rob someone of their money or assets.
  • You may not rob/steal fishing crates.
  • You are allowed rob/steal phones regardless of their number (custom or not). However, the owner of the phone will be free to roleplay restricting their SIM card and request an administrator to set the old number back to their new phone (after setting the number of the stolen phone to something random).

In the interest of fairness you may only commit a robbery when THREE or more cops are online (can be checked via /factiononline, this applies to both SASP & LSSD. SBI do not apply to this rule as they do not investigate street crimes) This applies only for simple robbery scenarios (approaching an unsuspecting player, robbing them and leaving afterwards), it is still allowed to commit a robbery and other criminal acts if they're a result of a roleplay scenario already in progress.
 

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The scam limits have been tweaked - the $50.000 scam limit (per player) remains in place, but you're no longer limited to three scams a day. A total daily limit of $150.000 has been added instead, and you're free to decide whether you want to scam more people for less cash, or less people for more cash.

General Scam and Robbery rules

  • The player you're robbing and/or scamming must be level THREE or higher.
  • You yourself need to be level THREE or higher in order to scam and/or rob.
  • You may not assist when robbing and/or scamming a player until you are level THREE in the interests of fairness.
    Exception to this: In the interest of fairness, committing illegal acts such as dealing drugs or using illegal weapons as a level 1 or 2 removes the under-level-3 protection. This means that other players will be allowed to rob or scam you in such a situation, despite of your level not being high enough.
  • In the interests of realism, you may not commit more than THREE robberies within a 24-hour period.
  • Due to the nature of scams, the amount of scams itself is not limited. Instead, we enforce monetary scam limits - a total daily limit and a separate limit per-player. (more in the Money Theft/Robberies and Scams section below).
  • You may not rob someone by pretending to buy/sell assets like vehicles, houses or businesses and luring them into a trap.
    However, this is allowed when buying/selling illegal items like weapons and drugs.
  • You may not use the auctions to scam/rob someone of their money or assets.
  • You may not rob/steal fishing crates.
  • You are allowed rob/steal phones regardless of their number (custom or not). However, the owner of the phone will be free to roleplay restricting their SIM card and request an administrator to set the old number back to their new phone (after setting the number of the stolen phone to something random).

In the interest of fairness you may only commit a robbery when THREE or more cops are online (can be checked via /factiononline, this applies to both SASP & LSSD. SBI do not apply to this rule as they do not investigate street crimes). This applies only for simple robbery scenarios (approaching an unsuspecting player, robbing them and leaving afterwards), it is still allowed to commit a robbery and other criminal acts if they're a result of a roleplay scenario already in progress.

Money Theft/Robberies and Scams
  • When robbing/stealing a player's money, you may not exceed the amount of $5,000
  • You may only rob up to $2,500 if you are forcing someone to take money from any of their assets or their bank account. This is included in the maximum amount of $5,000.
  • When scamming somebody of their money, you may not request more than the amount of $50,000.
  • You cannot scam for more than $50,000 only to then give the difference back to the player you scammed. However, if your victim pays you more than your requested $50,000 for whatever item you were offering, you may keep that money.
  • Gambling, such as blackjack, also falls under this rule. You are not allowed to refuse a payment over the scam limit.
  • You are allowed to scam up to $150.000 within a 24 hour period. The amount of scams does not matter, and the value can be anything between $1 and $50.000 per a single player (for example, you are allowed to scam 3 players for $50.000, or 10 players for $15.000, or 150 players for $1000, etc.)
  • The scamming limit does not apply during illegal deals. You are allowed to scam a player for more than $50.000 if the trade involves illegal goods such as weapons or drugs.
  • If you were scammed off your money - you are allowed to rob the scammer afterwards for as much as he scammed off of you, plus the usual robbery limit. So if you were scammed for 30.000$ by Player X - you are allowed to pursue them and rob them for up to 35.000$ afterward.
 
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